I have been using some of the old red cedar up now. These trees were blown over on a storm and the trunks were left, this is all of the 3 trees I had, was just sections of trunk. They had been dead and sitting for about 5 years before I cut these off. But we have a picture in 1875 of the trees and they were fair sized trees then. So I guess these trees were planted around 1840. Old growth trees I guess.